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發表於 2012-5-20 23:09:23 | 顯示全部樓層 |閱讀模式
Hi! First thread on Jr.Vip - heh, to be honest this post is actually one of the reasons I signed up.
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) D- @/ u9 ]/ T, |9 m3 }I've got more than a couple of questions throughout the text, so I
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Ok, the thing is - I'm planning on doing free-signup dating offers on CPA networks.
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I would drive the traffic to the offer mostly from CL. (dating)
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$ {+ W0 i  s, N( wNow at first I was paranoid, because I read a couple of threads about, i1 j7 w7 t3 S2 z. J& b
guys complaining that they were doing free-signups, but because none of' H5 R' R& E! A2 F* `
the leads converted into paying ones they got transferred/not payed etc.+ t; I  i& T' z- l
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(I'm not actually sure if they were on CPA- or adult networks. Is there a difference in these two when it comes to free-signups not converting into paid ones?)
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Well anyhow, I did some research on the subject. And basically the advice I got was:# k. \" @- J- a* ]/ b

. r% p8 U6 p1 r& @7 [0 C! y1. You can always blame the offer, it's not your fault it doesn't convert.
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$ ^. o6 H0 r+ z6 E' n2. Atleast your creating a list for them, which they can try to monetize later on (emails, zip codes, addresses etc.)
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3. What do they expect? 99% of people take something free and leave anyways.( l( N/ z4 u2 E3 A: d9 n
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5 d+ r) R3 ?  F) Z2 k5 hI think these are some pretty legit reasons, although do they matter anything in the eyes of a network/advertiser?
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$ h# `( L: c* W+ qI was also suggested to keep the amount of money made under $1500 per month per network.( X- w- a' k4 q+ a+ u" s0 p0 g' ?7 F
(just to keep it under the radar) That would mean $50 per day, which is: F! B: X: y9 ~* A
like 15 leads or so. (not many for free-signups) Another thing I will& H& v# m: N/ O* D
definitely keep in mind is not sticking on one offer - I'l rotate them
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2 C1 n8 B5 ?: w+ U# @My #1 question right now is whether I should use the scheme:, a7 A; B$ G; m* P  d4 R0 k
CL->email->BH site->WH site->offer. (I'd use some script /6 \! M* O5 _7 @4 [" {
if possible - "Referer Guardian" for redirecting) Some people& ^! Q& p& ]! `
recommended this. And actually
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it would be pretty logical as a coverup - if anyone asks I'm doing doing
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would be like 26k hits) What I would actually do is just send some fake1 z7 I' e4 y5 D+ ?  f" _
traffic to it. (about 20k per month or so)
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Now on the other hand there are people who tell me something like "oh
: \8 u# W- C; C! D6 g& E' L1 H4 \why bother, it's too much of a hassle - just give them a direct link to
9 z# t  o" z% u) A; ^/ rthe offer when your emailing them" Well, I guess I wouldn't even have to
+ s& L# c3 G! F6 Icloak/blank anything then? I mean, if I'm sending them the link through e-mail, the referer is blank already, right?
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2 w0 ~  M6 m) t$ T5 [( ]( g% yAlthough a pretty bad setback with e-mailing is that a lot of dating
. M$ J0 C  Z3 L# D( J! Ooffers don't allow e-mail traffic at all. With redirecting them through
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Hm, now I know there isn't a 100% answer, but overall which road should I take? When I'd choose the second one, wouldn't it be too suspicious? What would I have to tell the AM - that I'm using a opt-in mail list?/ f0 R2 y9 O! {& ?( l1 A
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Would I also have to send some fake traffic to the offer? {I mean a 15(sales):20(visitors) ratio wouldn't seem legit, would it?}* Z. t8 a5 _7 i1 b. P6 U

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$ |: d8 M( m+ y' W( T8 U9 X/ qBut with the first road, I'm puzzled with what should the sites actually: U5 a; q  ]. o
look like? I mean, I've seen a "secure dating" BH site, but their for/ J2 }. B/ ?5 N  E
CC offers. What would a BH site for a free-signup look like? And the WH site? (a review site perhaps?) I would really appreciate if someone would give me some examples!
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Heh, well - that's pretty much all..for now$ M/ C+ [& C6 o- ^2 m
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Thanks in forward!
 樓主| 發表於 2012-5-20 23:09:35 | 顯示全部樓層
Been real busy lately with uni. so haven't had a lot of time on my hands. But none the less I've gotten some answers + actually when I re-read my post, I must say - I asked a lot of shit which I could have tested out myself.  j2 y! M+ ~; ~$ E: a5 s" F
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Anyways, to the "Is there a difference in CPA networks and adult networks, when it comes to free-signups not converting into paid ones?" question I pretty much found my answer from sf's post, where he wrote:
5 A! L* X4 ?9 _! ESo there IS a difference. But I'm sure however that even with the CPA networks the advertisers aren't that happy if your sending them totally untargeted and non-converting traffic. I mean, they definitely have some "equal/greater than" ratio that must be fulfilled, right?: x" Q" i* x( i6 C% b
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Now, I talked to my AM on one of the networks. And he said that until I'm doing dating offers I can spam a (targeted) opt-in mail list. But CL is a no-no. So in a way this is good news, cause I don't have to worry about the WH site now. (to cover up my traffic so I could seem legit) I'l just now send my traffic directly to the offer through mail. No questions asked, right?
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I guess I still should cloak the offer though. And yea, I also know now the answer to "if I'm sending them the link through e-mail, the referer is blank already, right? " For those who might not know, it's not! The referer shows up as hotmail/gmail etc. Incase they click on it from a client like outlook - it shows as a direct hit!
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' V% D) ]! J# G! TAnyways.. I wouldn't want to make this post a monologue. So if you've got any useful tips / advice / etc. please do post!
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 樓主| 發表於 2012-5-20 23:09:44 | 顯示全部樓層
Thanks for posting this Sam although its a shame none of the experienced guys on here have replied to the post. If you have had private replies perhaps you can share them so we can all benefit.
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 樓主| 發表於 2012-5-20 23:09:57 | 顯示全部樓層
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Yea I'm in the same boat. I want easy signups that convert and look legit
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