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發表於 2012-5-20 23:09:23 | 顯示全部樓層 |閱讀模式
Hi! First thread on Jr.Vip - heh, to be honest this post is actually one of the reasons I signed up.
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thought it would make it easier to follow if I underlined the
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5 H# A( [# }# v2 ROk, the thing is - I'm planning on doing free-signup dating offers on CPA networks.
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9 ~0 r( M2 |$ ^1 o# f9 j+ JI would drive the traffic to the offer mostly from CL. (dating)+ T% o% j9 B. O) L  S# p! ~

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! u2 F) Y: r, C$ G. F! CNow at first I was paranoid, because I read a couple of threads about% A& m: q/ I! u$ _1 z
guys complaining that they were doing free-signups, but because none of
, l' Y; Q* S* n+ n9 Z$ K  cthe leads converted into paying ones they got transferred/not payed etc.
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+ l7 U* T3 c6 c0 B- c(I'm not actually sure if they were on CPA- or adult networks. Is there a difference in these two when it comes to free-signups not converting into paid ones?)
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Well anyhow, I did some research on the subject. And basically the advice I got was:1 s+ R( P6 [/ i. {, _4 G  I2 z' f

4 z, A. D( D- W1. You can always blame the offer, it's not your fault it doesn't convert.
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$ s8 f; R- P% ]  j& F2. Atleast your creating a list for them, which they can try to monetize later on (emails, zip codes, addresses etc.)  y  a/ V- L# v1 @. `' D

0 L0 Q+ `# i/ Q: M4 j+ h3. What do they expect? 99% of people take something free and leave anyways.
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2 J2 J% h5 F: X% ?. U- f& \I think these are some pretty legit reasons, although do they matter anything in the eyes of a network/advertiser?% K3 c9 V2 a. H% P; b2 T0 d

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6 P/ w" n' ]& N$ zI was also suggested to keep the amount of money made under $1500 per month per network.
0 D5 y# ?" N+ f& `, D6 j4 E: {) t(just to keep it under the radar) That would mean $50 per day, which is, Y6 w' v6 _$ j' H/ |4 _
like 15 leads or so. (not many for free-signups) Another thing I will
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or atleast use one offer for..let's say - a week and then pick another1 A: l9 F# }6 Z' a4 D: w
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0 W+ \* g/ L  y; [My #1 question right now is whether I should use the scheme:
2 `2 n) u5 ?& NCL->email->BH site->WH site->offer. (I'd use some script /
1 a+ X4 o7 l- |. r+ bif possible - "Referer Guardian" for redirecting) Some people4 `- G+ G) r$ _1 {$ T
recommended this. And actually
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it would be pretty logical as a coverup - if anyone asks I'm doing doing
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Now on the other hand there are people who tell me something like "oh
4 H8 a1 D, c2 D# s, nwhy bother, it's too much of a hassle - just give them a direct link to
; B7 B1 J9 M# {. p' v/ _the offer when your emailing them" Well, I guess I wouldn't even have to9 }6 T7 H" S- n, s3 c" w
cloak/blank anything then? I mean, if I'm sending them the link through e-mail, the referer is blank already, right?
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* D; I8 d9 r, z% k* d, EAlthough a pretty bad setback with e-mailing is that a lot of dating9 j4 c0 H4 a! o  e6 v# i
offers don't allow e-mail traffic at all. With redirecting them through
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  B) e, j2 {5 Z1 g- |% pHm, now I know there isn't a 100% answer, but overall which road should I take? When I'd choose the second one, wouldn't it be too suspicious? What would I have to tell the AM - that I'm using a opt-in mail list?) @5 D! ?* b0 \+ ]8 e7 C0 S" ]( V
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Would I also have to send some fake traffic to the offer? {I mean a 15(sales):20(visitors) ratio wouldn't seem legit, would it?}
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But with the first road, I'm puzzled with what should the sites actually
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CC offers. What would a BH site for a free-signup look like? And the WH site? (a review site perhaps?) I would really appreciate if someone would give me some examples!
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0 A0 M0 J8 @) f, l5 p0 |, Q  I, j: VHeh, well - that's pretty much all..for now! v% G6 k/ y  G( V( z
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Thanks in forward!
 樓主| 發表於 2012-5-20 23:09:35 | 顯示全部樓層
Been real busy lately with uni. so haven't had a lot of time on my hands. But none the less I've gotten some answers + actually when I re-read my post, I must say - I asked a lot of shit which I could have tested out myself.5 W7 a8 u0 L, e/ D0 p" r

2 U5 z9 L# F* ZAnyways, to the "Is there a difference in CPA networks and adult networks, when it comes to free-signups not converting into paid ones?" question I pretty much found my answer from sf's post, where he wrote:
1 X0 h# F; U6 F' I% J! OSo there IS a difference. But I'm sure however that even with the CPA networks the advertisers aren't that happy if your sending them totally untargeted and non-converting traffic. I mean, they definitely have some "equal/greater than" ratio that must be fulfilled, right?+ _: L+ F$ a" y

0 [3 ~: n7 P) Z# S, vNow, I talked to my AM on one of the networks. And he said that until I'm doing dating offers I can spam a (targeted) opt-in mail list. But CL is a no-no. So in a way this is good news, cause I don't have to worry about the WH site now. (to cover up my traffic so I could seem legit) I'l just now send my traffic directly to the offer through mail. No questions asked, right?
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I guess I still should cloak the offer though. And yea, I also know now the answer to "if I'm sending them the link through e-mail, the referer is blank already, right? " For those who might not know, it's not! The referer shows up as hotmail/gmail etc. Incase they click on it from a client like outlook - it shows as a direct hit!% g# i+ H7 e$ q2 C( @
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Anyways.. I wouldn't want to make this post a monologue. So if you've got any useful tips / advice / etc. please do post!
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 樓主| 發表於 2012-5-20 23:09:44 | 顯示全部樓層
Thanks for posting this Sam although its a shame none of the experienced guys on here have replied to the post. If you have had private replies perhaps you can share them so we can all benefit.
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 樓主| 發表於 2012-5-20 23:09:57 | 顯示全部樓層
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Yea I'm in the same boat. I want easy signups that convert and look legit# x' \$ G8 y% F$ y" u0 b% [
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