dating on CPA networks

Hi! First thread on Jr.Vip - heh, to be honest this post is actually one of the reasons I signed up.

I've got more than a couple of questions throughout the text, so I
thought it would make it easier to follow if I underlined the
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7 r$ X4 [; U7 [( D4 F) j" SOk, the thing is - I'm planning on doing free-signup dating offers on CPA networks.

# _' ~- |$ A4 R' T7 H5 M$ QI would drive the traffic to the offer mostly from CL. (dating)
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# i+ D' }: q/ ^+ V3 t7 hNow at first I was paranoid, because I read a couple of threads about
guys complaining that they were doing free-signups, but because none of
$ [2 T4 f0 x2 r" n: e- Uthe leads converted into paying ones they got transferred/not payed etc.

4 H# y  E+ f# {1 r9 A; \' O(I'm not actually sure if they were on CPA- or adult networks. Is there a difference in these two when it comes to free-signups not converting into paid ones?)
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- c. h1 q0 x* r  e, ]& qWell anyhow, I did some research on the subject. And basically the advice I got was:
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1. You can always blame the offer, it's not your fault it doesn't convert.

2. Atleast your creating a list for them, which they can try to monetize later on (emails, zip codes, addresses etc.)
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3. What do they expect? 99% of people take something free and leave anyways.
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I think these are some pretty legit reasons, although do they matter anything in the eyes of a network/advertiser?
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I was also suggested to keep the amount of money made under $1500 per month per network.
4 Z, F# L; O9 }(just to keep it under the radar) That would mean $50 per day, which is
# D9 R! V- y7 ilike 15 leads or so. (not many for free-signups) Another thing I will
definitely keep in mind is not sticking on one offer - I'l rotate them
or atleast use one offer for..let's say - a week and then pick another
one.
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My #1 question right now is whether I should use the scheme:
CL->email->BH site->WH site->offer. (I'd use some script /
if possible - "Referer Guardian" for redirecting) Some people
recommended this. And actually

, ~' p) r: ?6 D: l# z, R' iit would be pretty logical as a coverup - if anyone asks I'm doing doing
PPV. (I could tell I'm spending $400 on mediatraffic per month, which
would be like 26k hits) What I would actually do is just send some fake
, x6 K9 S/ R' X2 m2 v! Ztraffic to it. (about 20k per month or so)
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Now on the other hand there are people who tell me something like "oh
. P! U. [- P( _0 \why bother, it's too much of a hassle - just give them a direct link to
2 J8 g3 b' E" x. }7 hthe offer when your emailing them" Well, I guess I wouldn't even have to
* ]! A9 m1 }/ [cloak/blank anything then? I mean, if I'm sending them the link through e-mail, the referer is blank already, right?

Although a pretty bad setback with e-mailing is that a lot of dating
offers don't allow e-mail traffic at all. With redirecting them through
sites I could cover that up.
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" l# N) Z0 m5 U# y; H) m- E7 {Hm, now I know there isn't a 100% answer, but overall which road should I take? When I'd choose the second one, wouldn't it be too suspicious? What would I have to tell the AM - that I'm using a opt-in mail list?

Would I also have to send some fake traffic to the offer? {I mean a 15(sales):20(visitors) ratio wouldn't seem legit, would it?}


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2 [' Z  t) A/ M2 Q- _) c3 I; m, [But with the first road, I'm puzzled with what should the sites actually
look like? I mean, I've seen a "secure dating" BH site, but their for
CC offers. What would a BH site for a free-signup look like? And the WH site? (a review site perhaps?) I would really appreciate if someone would give me some examples!


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Heh, well - that's pretty much all..for now
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8 a" W: w$ v: F' G1 a! lThanks in forward!

Been real busy lately with uni. so haven't had a lot of time on my hands. But none the less I've gotten some answers + actually when I re-read my post, I must say - I asked a lot of shit which I could have tested out myself.

7 l: b% I4 i0 P* R8 uAnyways, to the "Is there a difference in CPA networks and adult networks, when it comes to free-signups not converting into paid ones?" question I pretty much found my answer from sf's post, where he wrote:
So there IS a difference. But I'm sure however that even with the CPA networks the advertisers aren't that happy if your sending them totally untargeted and non-converting traffic. I mean, they definitely have some "equal/greater than" ratio that must be fulfilled, right?
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Now, I talked to my AM on one of the networks. And he said that until I'm doing dating offers I can spam a (targeted) opt-in mail list. But CL is a no-no. So in a way this is good news, cause I don't have to worry about the WH site now. (to cover up my traffic so I could seem legit) I'l just now send my traffic directly to the offer through mail. No questions asked, right?
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8 ?: j4 o! u7 R, l! ]; }% I3 o/ bI guess I still should cloak the offer though. And yea, I also know now the answer to "if I'm sending them the link through e-mail, the referer is blank already, right? " For those who might not know, it's not! The referer shows up as hotmail/gmail etc. Incase they click on it from a client like outlook - it shows as a direct hit!

Anyways.. I wouldn't want to make this post a monologue. So if you've got any useful tips / advice / etc. please do post!

Thanks for posting this Sam although its a shame none of the experienced guys on here have replied to the post. If you have had private replies perhaps you can share them so we can all benefit.

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0 V) v- M8 N/ z/ E8 B0 k, bYea I'm in the same boat. I want easy signups that convert and look legit
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