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發表於 2012-5-20 23:09:23 | 顯示全部樓層 |閱讀模式
Hi! First thread on Jr.Vip - heh, to be honest this post is actually one of the reasons I signed up.
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$ R/ Y- ]* x, l1 {9 s( dI've got more than a couple of questions throughout the text, so I, ?$ L/ a7 D$ d! s
thought it would make it easier to follow if I underlined the
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' H1 ]1 {3 ^$ Z- ?% [* lOk, the thing is - I'm planning on doing free-signup dating offers on CPA networks.0 n. _- l, Q# N: R

2 F/ `7 D2 ^6 q) xI would drive the traffic to the offer mostly from CL. (dating)
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; e! |6 o5 l5 L+ D( k4 uNow at first I was paranoid, because I read a couple of threads about& ^5 c- C( O) T6 `: D6 W) ?* T
guys complaining that they were doing free-signups, but because none of1 T0 h' |# i2 [' Q* n4 a
the leads converted into paying ones they got transferred/not payed etc.
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(I'm not actually sure if they were on CPA- or adult networks. Is there a difference in these two when it comes to free-signups not converting into paid ones?)
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Well anyhow, I did some research on the subject. And basically the advice I got was:
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2. Atleast your creating a list for them, which they can try to monetize later on (emails, zip codes, addresses etc.)6 _5 F; f3 ~8 q9 R* ^1 {: c, {

3 V+ {* d1 ]1 _* z) _0 q3. What do they expect? 99% of people take something free and leave anyways.+ t* s2 D  J: Z: l

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I think these are some pretty legit reasons, although do they matter anything in the eyes of a network/advertiser?6 R, B- v8 T! {) z
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7 Y2 j+ ^9 D% b  K4 C  Z& j% }) zI was also suggested to keep the amount of money made under $1500 per month per network.* A; i* V1 F0 S
(just to keep it under the radar) That would mean $50 per day, which is9 ]' w% P- K* b# p
like 15 leads or so. (not many for free-signups) Another thing I will5 R: p- [5 K' P* D7 ]; P9 H, H
definitely keep in mind is not sticking on one offer - I'l rotate them) H2 B* V2 [$ ?3 e3 G
or atleast use one offer for..let's say - a week and then pick another
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" D4 q  [: D% s( L( GMy #1 question right now is whether I should use the scheme:9 t2 g( L0 z2 I! M) Z
CL->email->BH site->WH site->offer. (I'd use some script /6 ~1 D) ]6 g" a" H% D
if possible - "Referer Guardian" for redirecting) Some people
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it would be pretty logical as a coverup - if anyone asks I'm doing doing
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would be like 26k hits) What I would actually do is just send some fake5 H, N# k  d* h5 O% W
traffic to it. (about 20k per month or so)1 s: H4 u2 S5 h6 h) A
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$ D* G% l/ S1 |8 G' h: x/ B: _: Y* ?Now on the other hand there are people who tell me something like "oh8 Z" o5 _' Q& t' [2 t" L
why bother, it's too much of a hassle - just give them a direct link to) Z6 h2 E6 \; W8 C0 F( T9 N
the offer when your emailing them" Well, I guess I wouldn't even have to$ z5 d9 y# l5 r7 U, _: ?( T
cloak/blank anything then? I mean, if I'm sending them the link through e-mail, the referer is blank already, right?; i+ _; U+ I9 ?1 A( _( t

1 K5 S1 ~6 s0 F9 S, |7 P4 `Although a pretty bad setback with e-mailing is that a lot of dating+ G* L  D( b; s; P& ?. M0 R
offers don't allow e-mail traffic at all. With redirecting them through
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8 y1 R) K9 X& U5 d. s* `Hm, now I know there isn't a 100% answer, but overall which road should I take? When I'd choose the second one, wouldn't it be too suspicious? What would I have to tell the AM - that I'm using a opt-in mail list?0 X% `; t6 |. ]" N9 \6 q! R

9 O6 H$ C; C0 m" F. NWould I also have to send some fake traffic to the offer? {I mean a 15(sales):20(visitors) ratio wouldn't seem legit, would it?}
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0 R1 C' n  d# J  g( G$ gBut with the first road, I'm puzzled with what should the sites actually/ ~- D8 y; q- z- x8 g
look like? I mean, I've seen a "secure dating" BH site, but their for% s9 a- Y* l' D( L, |% e
CC offers. What would a BH site for a free-signup look like? And the WH site? (a review site perhaps?) I would really appreciate if someone would give me some examples!
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3 Z" h7 j8 [! b. aHeh, well - that's pretty much all..for now
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Thanks in forward!
 樓主| 發表於 2012-5-20 23:09:35 | 顯示全部樓層
Been real busy lately with uni. so haven't had a lot of time on my hands. But none the less I've gotten some answers + actually when I re-read my post, I must say - I asked a lot of shit which I could have tested out myself.
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( c- J3 J7 `9 a) uAnyways, to the "Is there a difference in CPA networks and adult networks, when it comes to free-signups not converting into paid ones?" question I pretty much found my answer from sf's post, where he wrote:1 Q5 _0 z2 |0 B7 G6 J5 N2 F, r. x
So there IS a difference. But I'm sure however that even with the CPA networks the advertisers aren't that happy if your sending them totally untargeted and non-converting traffic. I mean, they definitely have some "equal/greater than" ratio that must be fulfilled, right?. a6 V0 g, \5 [" M4 H1 y4 b% |0 b$ p

$ {4 o# X, \% c' T" H. ANow, I talked to my AM on one of the networks. And he said that until I'm doing dating offers I can spam a (targeted) opt-in mail list. But CL is a no-no. So in a way this is good news, cause I don't have to worry about the WH site now. (to cover up my traffic so I could seem legit) I'l just now send my traffic directly to the offer through mail. No questions asked, right?
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I guess I still should cloak the offer though. And yea, I also know now the answer to "if I'm sending them the link through e-mail, the referer is blank already, right? " For those who might not know, it's not! The referer shows up as hotmail/gmail etc. Incase they click on it from a client like outlook - it shows as a direct hit!1 k0 g; f2 s. E- X2 W: o
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Anyways.. I wouldn't want to make this post a monologue. So if you've got any useful tips / advice / etc. please do post!
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 樓主| 發表於 2012-5-20 23:09:44 | 顯示全部樓層
Thanks for posting this Sam although its a shame none of the experienced guys on here have replied to the post. If you have had private replies perhaps you can share them so we can all benefit.
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 樓主| 發表於 2012-5-20 23:09:57 | 顯示全部樓層
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) |; ^  W2 x8 n: P# HYea I'm in the same boat. I want easy signups that convert and look legit3 n! c3 G, X$ D. U2 y; T
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