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發表於 2012-5-20 23:09:23 | 顯示全部樓層 |閱讀模式
Hi! First thread on Jr.Vip - heh, to be honest this post is actually one of the reasons I signed up.  l+ U+ M, A3 e- n! b7 b  Y

1 X8 v9 ^. s! ?. U0 iI've got more than a couple of questions throughout the text, so I
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questions/things I'm doubting on.
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Ok, the thing is - I'm planning on doing free-signup dating offers on CPA networks.
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I would drive the traffic to the offer mostly from CL. (dating)7 F8 Y, V! U5 \& {
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, [6 r+ k; @: u2 _" Y' MNow at first I was paranoid, because I read a couple of threads about1 O# |% b9 J5 L; s$ V. K
guys complaining that they were doing free-signups, but because none of
  ^( Y' N1 |+ ?% |5 l9 Y. b2 m; nthe leads converted into paying ones they got transferred/not payed etc.2 M/ G0 [( i. P) W4 _1 d# Q
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(I'm not actually sure if they were on CPA- or adult networks. Is there a difference in these two when it comes to free-signups not converting into paid ones?)
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3 p0 Z6 B8 ^( X+ J* l8 A) E8 SWell anyhow, I did some research on the subject. And basically the advice I got was:  T' X( Q: r; a3 y3 S6 k& N
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1. You can always blame the offer, it's not your fault it doesn't convert.: K% m' a; ]3 _8 @
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2. Atleast your creating a list for them, which they can try to monetize later on (emails, zip codes, addresses etc.)/ A( t9 g% }# D  K0 U/ K8 R5 Z9 O8 P

2 f& d6 O) C) P8 G4 l# x3. What do they expect? 99% of people take something free and leave anyways.4 c# q$ p  c' i; N5 k4 G' Z
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I think these are some pretty legit reasons, although do they matter anything in the eyes of a network/advertiser?* o2 _4 K5 t6 E- T$ ~/ n
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I was also suggested to keep the amount of money made under $1500 per month per network.0 ^# o3 ]- X6 W
(just to keep it under the radar) That would mean $50 per day, which is
/ s" X) H+ w9 u  ]0 p( Ilike 15 leads or so. (not many for free-signups) Another thing I will
6 T. }$ I: N, E3 `/ M. Sdefinitely keep in mind is not sticking on one offer - I'l rotate them2 o6 R, h! ~# d, _9 b9 ^
or atleast use one offer for..let's say - a week and then pick another( d: A; K5 M+ K. d, L0 v( o/ _
one.
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' D" g2 y6 M* ]My #1 question right now is whether I should use the scheme:( C; e% M7 g% q/ z' E& @
CL->email->BH site->WH site->offer. (I'd use some script /% B' T0 m3 l  z7 I. W$ ~
if possible - "Referer Guardian" for redirecting) Some people# B2 R, Q, I& q- I  u
recommended this. And actually# X6 X' b+ W  o. D
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it would be pretty logical as a coverup - if anyone asks I'm doing doing! }& X. `( F" [' e$ ?. \; m
PPV. (I could tell I'm spending $400 on mediatraffic per month, which
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traffic to it. (about 20k per month or so)
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. J, d3 Z( \! S1 j( n1 ]1 O- G7 ZNow on the other hand there are people who tell me something like "oh0 r/ ]  e& @# A8 T# y4 m
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the offer when your emailing them" Well, I guess I wouldn't even have to. D4 q; d- V% M" i" P
cloak/blank anything then? I mean, if I'm sending them the link through e-mail, the referer is blank already, right?
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Although a pretty bad setback with e-mailing is that a lot of dating9 j3 p: `/ v: ^& g% B
offers don't allow e-mail traffic at all. With redirecting them through
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Hm, now I know there isn't a 100% answer, but overall which road should I take? When I'd choose the second one, wouldn't it be too suspicious? What would I have to tell the AM - that I'm using a opt-in mail list?& ?7 ~) e: ]* d& e" }* R6 h
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Would I also have to send some fake traffic to the offer? {I mean a 15(sales):20(visitors) ratio wouldn't seem legit, would it?}
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3 R6 ^1 g' U: d8 d5 P( HBut with the first road, I'm puzzled with what should the sites actually
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CC offers. What would a BH site for a free-signup look like? And the WH site? (a review site perhaps?) I would really appreciate if someone would give me some examples!
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Heh, well - that's pretty much all..for now
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  @* o7 ^' @) W- z9 ?Thanks in forward!
 樓主| 發表於 2012-5-20 23:09:35 | 顯示全部樓層
Been real busy lately with uni. so haven't had a lot of time on my hands. But none the less I've gotten some answers + actually when I re-read my post, I must say - I asked a lot of shit which I could have tested out myself.
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1 [0 Z# k( U; pAnyways, to the "Is there a difference in CPA networks and adult networks, when it comes to free-signups not converting into paid ones?" question I pretty much found my answer from sf's post, where he wrote:
; j1 V7 B( s! I  S" K' aSo there IS a difference. But I'm sure however that even with the CPA networks the advertisers aren't that happy if your sending them totally untargeted and non-converting traffic. I mean, they definitely have some "equal/greater than" ratio that must be fulfilled, right?- S4 u. L, h6 O# u7 y: S6 p
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Now, I talked to my AM on one of the networks. And he said that until I'm doing dating offers I can spam a (targeted) opt-in mail list. But CL is a no-no. So in a way this is good news, cause I don't have to worry about the WH site now. (to cover up my traffic so I could seem legit) I'l just now send my traffic directly to the offer through mail. No questions asked, right?
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( S8 j* ~/ K8 X* V. @0 X! _I guess I still should cloak the offer though. And yea, I also know now the answer to "if I'm sending them the link through e-mail, the referer is blank already, right? " For those who might not know, it's not! The referer shows up as hotmail/gmail etc. Incase they click on it from a client like outlook - it shows as a direct hit!9 C; t5 F# u6 k7 W

% g7 `5 f; D  Y% D% D2 {- m- E( CAnyways.. I wouldn't want to make this post a monologue. So if you've got any useful tips / advice / etc. please do post!
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 樓主| 發表於 2012-5-20 23:09:44 | 顯示全部樓層
Thanks for posting this Sam although its a shame none of the experienced guys on here have replied to the post. If you have had private replies perhaps you can share them so we can all benefit.
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 樓主| 發表於 2012-5-20 23:09:57 | 顯示全部樓層
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3 f3 L% }& C4 `Yea I'm in the same boat. I want easy signups that convert and look legit# l0 {# N6 o( u. h0 S# d( m9 a8 |
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