dating on CPA networks

Sam;91256 Wrote:Hi! First thread on Jr.Vip - heh, to be honest this post is actually one of the reasons I signed up.
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I've got more than a couple of questions throughout the text, so I
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8 W7 E$ ?+ F" j7 TOk, the thing is - I'm planning on doing free-signup dating offers on CPA networks.

I would drive the traffic to the offer mostly from CL. (dating)
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$ {" D$ C# q: z+ {- m; @Now at first I was paranoid, because I read a couple of threads about
guys complaining that they were doing free-signups, but because none of
the leads converted into paying ones they got transferred/not payed etc.

(I'm not actually sure if they were on CPA- or adult networks. Is there a difference in these two when it comes to free-signups not converting into paid ones?)

0 p1 z; \& W/ D! ]. ~# Q; |Well anyhow, I did some research on the subject. And basically the advice I got was:
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- u1 T1 ^4 B6 h1. You can always blame the offer, it's not your fault it doesn't convert.
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2. Atleast your creating a list for them, which they can try to monetize later on (emails, zip codes, addresses etc.)
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1 X& [8 {* Y. n' s3. What do they expect? 99% of people take something free and leave anyways.


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5 _& Z$ J& v9 F- |2 XI think these are some pretty legit reasons, although do they matter anything in the eyes of a network/advertiser?



0 \. g' D2 v5 c" R+ OI was also suggested to keep the amount of money made under $1500 per month per network.
0 [! f* ^) f0 a; ]. `0 {0 {& A(just to keep it under the radar) That would mean $50 per day, which is
9 Y! J( T8 \( o- E9 {like 15 leads or so. (not many for free-signups) Another thing I will
definitely keep in mind is not sticking on one offer - I'l rotate them
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one.
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7 ~5 {2 W7 r: Y6 I  t7 }My #1 question right now is whether I should use the scheme:
! {- d* K4 u- I8 vCL->email->BH site->WH site->offer. (I'd use some script /
if possible - "Referer Guardian" for redirecting) Some people
recommended this. And actually

it would be pretty logical as a coverup - if anyone asks I'm doing doing
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would be like 26k hits) What I would actually do is just send some fake
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. I8 A: ]" l6 k+ A& MNow on the other hand there are people who tell me something like "oh
3 |9 i3 T+ L$ l, H# }+ H5 Twhy bother, it's too much of a hassle - just give them a direct link to
the offer when your emailing them" Well, I guess I wouldn't even have to
5 K" U! w/ f- H# l/ {5 z5 V$ E7 \cloak/blank anything then? I mean, if I'm sending them the link through e-mail, the referer is blank already, right?
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! i# k* H9 u; {2 w* `; R! Z+ tAlthough a pretty bad setback with e-mailing is that a lot of dating
offers don't allow e-mail traffic at all. With redirecting them through
sites I could cover that up.

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+ y+ B, w: d0 l6 o  P: ?: J- _Hm, now I know there isn't a 100% answer, but overall which road should I take? When I'd choose the second one, wouldn't it be too suspicious? What would I have to tell the AM - that I'm using a opt-in mail list?
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  @8 @2 B- _' j8 o+ }5 g( ?Would I also have to send some fake traffic to the offer? {I mean a 15(sales):20(visitors) ratio wouldn't seem legit, would it?}
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But with the first road, I'm puzzled with what should the sites actually
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CC offers. What would a BH site for a free-signup look like? And the WH site? (a review site perhaps?) I would really appreciate if someone would give me some examples!
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Heh, well - that's pretty much all..for now  

Thanks in forward!
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Sam;92740 Wrote:Been real busy lately with uni. so haven't had a lot of time on my hands. But none the less I've gotten some answers + actually when I re-read my post, I must say - I asked a lot of shit which I could have tested out myself.
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Anyways, to the "Is there a difference in CPA networks and adult networks, when it comes to free-signups not converting into paid ones?" question I pretty much found my answer from sf's post, where he wrote:
0 l1 K0 a) {/ O! jSo there IS a difference. But I'm sure however that even with the CPA networks the advertisers aren't that happy if your sending them totally untargeted and non-converting traffic. I mean, they definitely have some "equal/greater than" ratio that must be fulfilled, right?

Now, I talked to my AM on one of the networks. And he said that until I'm doing dating offers I can spam a (targeted) opt-in mail list. But CL is a no-no. So in a way this is good news, cause I don't have to worry about the WH site now. (to cover up my traffic so I could seem legit) I'l just now send my traffic directly to the offer through mail. No questions asked, right?

( j+ p: o6 L" j2 yI guess I still should cloak the offer though. And yea, I also know now the answer to "if I'm sending them the link through e-mail, the referer is blank already, right? " For those who might not know, it's not! The referer shows up as hotmail/gmail etc. Incase they click on it from a client like outlook - it shows as a direct hit!
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Anyways.. I wouldn't want to make this post a monologue. So if you've got any useful tips / advice / etc. please do post!