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發表於 2012-5-20 23:09:23 | 顯示全部樓層 |閱讀模式
Hi! First thread on Jr.Vip - heh, to be honest this post is actually one of the reasons I signed up.
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I've got more than a couple of questions throughout the text, so I! A9 B) P( O" [* T
thought it would make it easier to follow if I underlined the5 E* H" p) k* f1 [6 r! p6 N$ c/ p
questions/things I'm doubting on.
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Ok, the thing is - I'm planning on doing free-signup dating offers on CPA networks.
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I would drive the traffic to the offer mostly from CL. (dating)
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Now at first I was paranoid, because I read a couple of threads about
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7 X5 U7 a: A- j% Xthe leads converted into paying ones they got transferred/not payed etc.+ k* ]! D0 w/ q* j7 r& ^- S( x
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(I'm not actually sure if they were on CPA- or adult networks. Is there a difference in these two when it comes to free-signups not converting into paid ones?)
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Well anyhow, I did some research on the subject. And basically the advice I got was:
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! c9 g# A4 z' ^; a  y* c1. You can always blame the offer, it's not your fault it doesn't convert.# R- [( H9 {% J7 g# W- y5 Z, [
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2. Atleast your creating a list for them, which they can try to monetize later on (emails, zip codes, addresses etc.)
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8 t) k6 H6 W" I3 {9 N3. What do they expect? 99% of people take something free and leave anyways.
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; \( ^5 K! y2 C/ v8 z+ TI think these are some pretty legit reasons, although do they matter anything in the eyes of a network/advertiser?
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2 H+ Z* i+ Z4 D% O, [I was also suggested to keep the amount of money made under $1500 per month per network.
  M+ b& W% t# n* G(just to keep it under the radar) That would mean $50 per day, which is
% u' R# M- D+ Elike 15 leads or so. (not many for free-signups) Another thing I will% P6 y  z9 O+ B% R/ A$ \
definitely keep in mind is not sticking on one offer - I'l rotate them
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My #1 question right now is whether I should use the scheme:, A$ M* I5 Y" G2 h+ J* W( ~
CL->email->BH site->WH site->offer. (I'd use some script /7 N5 J4 C7 {- p/ f( }
if possible - "Referer Guardian" for redirecting) Some people
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" P1 m2 \, h4 j/ X$ C: p9 pit would be pretty logical as a coverup - if anyone asks I'm doing doing2 T: K$ @+ y  x) r2 X& H
PPV. (I could tell I'm spending $400 on mediatraffic per month, which
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traffic to it. (about 20k per month or so)* o# _; U. O$ |1 ?) Y& U) N, n' V
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Now on the other hand there are people who tell me something like "oh
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the offer when your emailing them" Well, I guess I wouldn't even have to; [7 J' `0 P0 E5 A0 P7 S( X2 S
cloak/blank anything then? I mean, if I'm sending them the link through e-mail, the referer is blank already, right?  k' e, _+ l$ C& l( X
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Although a pretty bad setback with e-mailing is that a lot of dating
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8 I3 L0 e2 Y, L/ t3 D6 C, u$ UHm, now I know there isn't a 100% answer, but overall which road should I take? When I'd choose the second one, wouldn't it be too suspicious? What would I have to tell the AM - that I'm using a opt-in mail list?8 Z' b! n; o$ |9 Q) H- v
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Would I also have to send some fake traffic to the offer? {I mean a 15(sales):20(visitors) ratio wouldn't seem legit, would it?}
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# r7 R& P- v0 V' j7 I; ]# GBut with the first road, I'm puzzled with what should the sites actually
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9 M% t3 `: P4 j1 B  E- tCC offers. What would a BH site for a free-signup look like? And the WH site? (a review site perhaps?) I would really appreciate if someone would give me some examples!
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3 S) r; H7 v! E4 N/ YHeh, well - that's pretty much all..for now
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, P( s' ^% ?! r3 t0 UThanks in forward!
 樓主| 發表於 2012-5-20 23:09:35 | 顯示全部樓層
Been real busy lately with uni. so haven't had a lot of time on my hands. But none the less I've gotten some answers + actually when I re-read my post, I must say - I asked a lot of shit which I could have tested out myself., `7 m; s' r) R: ]- ?
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Anyways, to the "Is there a difference in CPA networks and adult networks, when it comes to free-signups not converting into paid ones?" question I pretty much found my answer from sf's post, where he wrote:
% l5 {$ D2 N! `* E. O. Z8 x) TSo there IS a difference. But I'm sure however that even with the CPA networks the advertisers aren't that happy if your sending them totally untargeted and non-converting traffic. I mean, they definitely have some "equal/greater than" ratio that must be fulfilled, right?6 G( C( t  T- A$ t
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Now, I talked to my AM on one of the networks. And he said that until I'm doing dating offers I can spam a (targeted) opt-in mail list. But CL is a no-no. So in a way this is good news, cause I don't have to worry about the WH site now. (to cover up my traffic so I could seem legit) I'l just now send my traffic directly to the offer through mail. No questions asked, right?
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% m7 ]  D4 n* Z4 EI guess I still should cloak the offer though. And yea, I also know now the answer to "if I'm sending them the link through e-mail, the referer is blank already, right? " For those who might not know, it's not! The referer shows up as hotmail/gmail etc. Incase they click on it from a client like outlook - it shows as a direct hit!. n5 |, @0 |3 R, {2 {

: g% I' P9 ?( g4 hAnyways.. I wouldn't want to make this post a monologue. So if you've got any useful tips / advice / etc. please do post!
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 樓主| 發表於 2012-5-20 23:09:44 | 顯示全部樓層
Thanks for posting this Sam although its a shame none of the experienced guys on here have replied to the post. If you have had private replies perhaps you can share them so we can all benefit.$ P  F6 X: K8 M  o, b0 w

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 樓主| 發表於 2012-5-20 23:09:57 | 顯示全部樓層
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1 A- V- K( D* EYea I'm in the same boat. I want easy signups that convert and look legit
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